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Jim
Wannabe

Ireland
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Posted - 07 Oct 2003 :  17:21:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Any thoughts on auctions online? I was thinking of dabbling but would appreciate advice - comments

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MARIA28655
Wannabe

Greece
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Posted - 17 Oct 2003 :  13:05:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HELLO. I AM NEW SO I NEED A LITTLE HELP. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SHIRAZ AND A SYRAH?
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Francois
Wine goer

France
64 Posts

Posted - 17 Oct 2003 :  13:45:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Syrah is a grape varietal that originated in the Rhône region of France. It was eventually exported to Australia where the locals found necessary to anglicise the name the Shiraz. Syrah has been growing very successfully in the warmer parts of the "New World" wine regions under the name Shiraz.

In the end it is about the same as wondering why Bourgogne was ever called "Burgundy" in English. And actually I do wonder...

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Admin
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 17 Oct 2003 :  14:35:56  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Maria28655, do a search on this Forum (top right corner) for the terms "Syrah" and "Shiraz". You will find plenty of information.

God knew that I would drink...
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Peter May
God

United Kingdom
1064 Posts

Posted - 18 Oct 2003 :  12:36:57  Show Profile  Visit Peter May's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MARIA28655

HELLO. I AM NEW SO I NEED A LITTLE HELP. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SHIRAZ AND A SYRAH?

They are two names for the same grape variety. For the background story on how this variety got two names see my article at http://www.winelabels.org/artsyr.htm


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Peter May
God

United Kingdom
1064 Posts

Posted - 18 Oct 2003 :  12:45:06  Show Profile  Visit Peter May's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Francois


In the end it is about the same as wondering why Bourgogne was ever called "Burgundy" in English.

Or indeed why London is called Londres in French ...


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eric
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Oct 2003 :  12:22:25  Show Profile  Visit eric's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The Romans called it Londinium, in Gaelic it became Lundrain.

This could explain that in English the R not being pronounced, disappeared and gave something like Lundain and then London while on the French side of the channel, where the R is more significant than following diphtongs it turned into Lundre, got an S to finish the word and ended up being Londres.

Since we are on the subject of common historical backgrounds, does anybody know why the English Coat of Arms (the one that is on the Queen's carriage and everywhere else) shows:

"Dieu et mon Droit
Hon y soit qui mal y pense"
(that should in fact read "Honnit soit qui mal y pense)

?

It is actually a rather crunchy story but I know only the crunchy bit, about the garter...


Courtesy of: http://www.fleurdelis.com/royal.htm

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Admin
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Oct 2003 :  13:04:43  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
back to wine auctions, some sound advice here:

http://www.letstalkwine.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=421


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wineexp
Wannabe

Italy
1 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  00:07:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hello we re a wine shop in italy near ro if u re interested we can send u much type of italian wine and graps we ve good price and we much and good contact with the best productors of wine in italy if re u interested and if u ve a special request send me a mail wineexp@yahoo.it

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saint
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United Kingdom
1225 Posts

Posted - 13 Oct 2006 :  13:01:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wineexp

hello we re a wine shop in italy near ro if u re interested we can send u much type of italian wine and graps we ve good price and we much and good contact with the best productors of wine in italy if re u interested and if u ve a special request send me a mail wineexp@yahoo.it


SPAM.

This is about on-line auctions, not on-line shops. If we all put our businesses up it would be very tedious.

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