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dv002i
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USA
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Posted - 13 Sep 2007 :  03:01:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Reading the thread on Argentine Malbec from a while back the Cahors region of France was recommended as a good alternative to find great Malbec (albeit a lot different than new world Malbec). I have never tried anything from this region of France before. Can anyone give a few recommendations to get me started.

Thanks,

-Daniel

david cousins
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Posted - 13 Sep 2007 :  10:50:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Any of the following are reliable:-
Chateaux Mercues, Cedre, Eugenie, Chambert, Haut-Sierre, Hauts d'Anglan
Clos Gamot, Triguedina

Cahors tends to be very tannic and lasts many years. I always drink Cahors with food as it is such a big wine.I regularly visit a friend in the Lot valley and have about 100 bottles. My main recommendation would be open any Cahors at least 3 hours before drinking. It can be superb and at a fraction of an equivalent Bordeaux.

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Jeffrey_french
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Posted - 13 Sep 2007 :  16:55:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sommelier in the East Subird...
I follow these recommendations. A Full bodied who can be waited a few years at least. A good decanting or an early opening is recommended.
Choose properly your food as well. Beef, venison, wild hog. Why not a garnish of prune or fig, forest mushroom ? Difficult to drink it on its sole.
Where may you buy it ?
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draymond02
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Posted - 13 Sep 2007 :  21:17:13  Show Profile  Visit draymond02's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by david cousins

Any of the following are reliable:-
Chateaux Mercues, Cedre, Eugenie, Chambert, Haut-Sierre, Hauts d'Anglan
Clos Gamot, Triguedina

Cahors tends to be very tannic and lasts many years. I always drink Cahors with food as it is such a big wine.I regularly visit a friend in the Lot valley and have about 100 bottles. My main recommendation would be open any Cahors at least 3 hours before drinking. It can be superb and at a fraction of an equivalent Bordeaux.


Ohh, I really like the Chambert! Good choice, and a nice little list you got there.

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dv002i
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USA
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Posted - 14 Sep 2007 :  13:43:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
David, thanks for the recommendations. Now just need to get ahold of a few bottles.

Jeffery, not sure where I'll buy them yet. I live in Rochester, NY. We have a few nice wine shops here but I don't believe any of them carry a large selection from this region of France (if at all), but I’ll have to check (even Bordeaux’s are limited to 20-30 different chateau). Most of the places around me stock huge selections of California, Chilean and Australian wines. I usually end up buying online, searching via wineaccess or winezap, when I buy French wines (about half my cellar contains wonderful liquids from France). I'll report back when I've ordered and tasted a few.

Thanks again,

-Daniel

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draymond02
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Posted - 14 Sep 2007 :  16:28:06  Show Profile  Visit draymond02's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dv002i

David, thanks for the recommendations. Now just need to get ahold of a few bottles.

Jeffery, not sure where I'll buy them yet. I live in Rochester, NY. We have a few nice wine shops here but I don't believe any of them carry a large selection from this region of France (if at all), but I’ll have to check (even Bordeaux’s are limited to 20-30 different chateau). Most of the places around me stock huge selections of California, Chilean and Australian wines. I usually end up buying online, searching via wineaccess or winezap, when I buy French wines (about half my cellar contains wonderful liquids from France). I'll report back when I've ordered and tasted a few.

Thanks again,

-Daniel


Have you tried the House of Bacchus? They have a wide selection of wines, not sure how much is french...and I don't know what happened to Century Liqour.

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sade58
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USA
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Posted - 14 Sep 2007 :  16:52:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found several on-line....Try winecommune.com for starters..
A good Cahor can be an adventure...LOL

The quality of my words are directly related to the quality of my wine.
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dv002i
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USA
67 Posts

Posted - 14 Sep 2007 :  19:03:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Century Liquor was bought out by Wegmans last year. It's moving from the current location to Pittsford Plaza where the Chase Pitkin used to be. Not sure if it will be the same quality store. Bacchus is great. Occasionally go to Marketview, good prices but not the best selection or staff.

Sade58, yea winecommune is great! I've spent far more money through them and JJbuckley than I should!

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Benboy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Sep 2007 :  16:51:52  Show Profile  Visit Benboy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Chateau Chambert as well as Du Cedre would be my top tips!!

Benboy


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dv002i
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USA
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Posted - 21 Sep 2007 :  18:30:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just ordered a few different wines from Cahors, whew they are hard to find! Absolutely nothing locally in Rochester NY, and even online they were scarce. Here's what I ordered to try:

Clos Triguedina Cahors 2003
Chateau du Cedre, Le Prestige 2004
Croix Du Mayne Cahors 2002

I'll give an update after popping a few corks.

-Daniel


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dv002i
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USA
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Posted - 05 Oct 2007 :  16:33:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, so I opened up a bottle of the Chateau du Cedre, Le Prestige 2004. Here are my notes:

Popped the cork and poured into a decanter:

At 1hr: The nose was pretty tight and closed. A little cherry and nail polish. There was a little fruit on the palate with a heavily tannic finish.

At 2hr: Still pretty tight on the nose now with chocolate and toffee. Nice cherries and wild berries on the palate. Starting to smooth out.

At 3hr: Opening up more, chocolate and black cherry aromas. Cherries and jammy qualities on the tongue. Still a little tannic.

At 4hr: Spice and cherry with underlying oak. Light and fruity, getting just a touch too much presence of alcohol. Wine is probably a little warm at this point (more like 70 deg F). Poured back into bottle and put cork in bottle. Left at room temperature.

At 23 hr: Chocolate and cherries with orange peel on the nose. Drinking very similar to at 4 hrs, maybe a bit smoother.

Overall, this was a pretty nice wine, especially under $15 US. Definitely good to decant for at least 3-5 hrs before drinking. Will do well to sit in the cellar for another few years.

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Shyr Kahn
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Hungary
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Posted - 29 Nov 2007 :  14:25:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think, that the best wine from Cahors:
Chateau La Caminade, Esprit 2002,2003 (chateau-caminade.com/uk/)
It's very complex, nice and have a long finish.

quote:
Originally posted by david cousins

Any of the following are reliable:-
Chateaux Mercues, Cedre, Eugenie, Chambert, Haut-Sierre, Hauts d'Anglan
Clos Gamot, Triguedina

Cahors tends to be very tannic and lasts many years. I always drink Cahors with food as it is such a big wine.I regularly visit a friend in the Lot valley and have about 100 bottles. My main recommendation would be open any Cahors at least 3 hours before drinking. It can be superb and at a fraction of an equivalent Bordeaux.



Edited by - DavidL on 29 Nov 2007 14:29:22
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Heidi
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France
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Posted - 27 Dec 2007 :  09:13:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dv002i

Reading the thread on Argentine Malbec from a while back the Cahors region of France was recommended as a good alternative to find great Malbec (albeit a lot different than new world Malbec). I have never tried anything from this region of France before. Can anyone give a few recommendations to get me started.

Thanks,

-Daniel



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